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Posted by Roger on 2nd Jul 2014
It sounds to me like the crurent situation in most math departments is likely to select for women who don't mind or even prefer to be in the minority - the women who aren't happy to have so few women in the department would presumably be that much more likely to leave to do other things. And it seems from the comments people made at the panel that events like this can help to keep those women from leaving for reasons that have nothing to do with their abilities in math, and to attract other women who might otherwise be wary of entering such a male-dominated field. That seems to me to be a good enough reason to have events like this, to begin with.But more than that, to me, this event more than proved its usefulness with that first question that was asked, about how being pregnant might affect a woman's career. Can you imagine such a question being asked at a panel where all or most of the participants were men? Even if there was a woman brave enough to ask such a question, would a panel of men even know what to say? And yet it's clearly an important question that many women struggle with. (As I can tell even from the comments to this entry alone.) Isn't it good to have a place where women can discuss such issues and give advice to each other and discuss their experiences, without each woman having to feel like she has to reinvent the wheel alone, stuck as she is as the only woman in a faculty of men, at what has to already be a difficult time in her life?There are clearly questions about what it's like to be a woman in mathematics that men can't answer. Is it really so bad to provide a place where such questions can be discussed?
Posted by Oncen on 2nd Jul 2014
almost exactly the same thgins you just said, only you put it better than I did. (My arguments against affirmative action are in point #2, if you are curious about it.) So it's a bit unexpected for me to suddenly find myself on the opposite side of this same argument. But I've thought about this a lot since then, and I guess I've come to realize that thgins are not as simple as I used to believe.Девочки ли, мальчики были на первых ролях в классе или кружке -- никто никогда не обращал на это ни малейшего внимания, ни в отрицательном смысле, ни в положительном. Совпадение ли, что девочек на первых ролях было при этом очень много?That sounds wonderful! So where did all these girls who were great at mathematics in school disappear to? Why are so many fewer women than men going into pure math, when there were so many girls in leading roles in math in school? I have a friend who is a math teacher in a private high school, who says the same thing - that a lot of his strongest students are girls, and not boys. So where do they all go? Why do they not go on to math, or physics, or computer science?More than half the students in the very math-intensive biostatistics classes that I take are women, and they are certainly not weaker than the men. So why are so many more women going into applied math than pure math?I have seen women graduate students say that they left mathematics because they didn't feel welcome in the all-male department - they were looked down on, disrespected, didn't feel like anybody was willing to listen to any problems they might be having that were different from the men's problems. It's easy to just dismiss those women as people who just couldn't cut it, but when those same women then go on to do fine in other math-related fields, I feel like that's a sign that there might be some kind of problem that should be addressed.The thing is, women *are* different from men. They might have different problems that the men in the majority might not have. If we insist that people not pay attention to our gender at all - if we pretend that women are just like men - then this is giving the people in the majority carte blanche not to have to worry about those problems. (Want a room where you can use a breast pump during the day without being disturbed? Well, now you are just being unreasonable! None of the *other* people in the department have this problem, so you must be imagining it! etc, etc.) And I think that this approach can be very harmful, and can result in the department losing people that might otherwise have been a great asset to the department.Affirmative action is almost certainly not the best way to solve this problem, but I feel like this *is* a large problem that should be addressed, and not just ignored and swept under the carpet. And it seems to me that a meeting specifically set up in such a way that women speakers can talk about the work that they do, with a panel that includes talking about issues women might face working in mostly-male math departments, could go a long way in making it clear that women *are* welcome in math, that people *do* care about their problems. And such a meeting could even help in beginning to figure out how to *solve* these problems.I'm sorry, I'm shutting up now. Sorry this comment is so long!
Posted by Alboss on 2nd Jul 2014
Ativan is highly addiitcve, and coming down from it can give headaches. There is a lot of controversy with the drug. Half life is anywhere from 10 to 24 hours. And it hasn't been shown to be effective against depression either. Recent studies show it is used more in hospitals before, during and after procedures so you kind-of lose memory of the surgery even dental. Many have been changed over to diazepam because of the weird effects of Ativan. I would check with your doctor, also check WebMD for the drug and all its info. It has been used successfully for those with seizures. I would discuss this drug and why you need this one with your doctor. Alcohol is a no-no and if you have sleep apnea it can make it worse. I would have sleep apnea ruled out before I would take it myself. Police have known for years that this drug affects driving to the point you can be impaired and not realize it, so even driving is out. It also has been implicated in rape/drug cases with alcohol, so be very very careful. People have done strange things on this. There are a few dozen generic brands of this drug and doctors give it out and don't realize they need to really inform the patient of the benefits and the bad stuff it does too.Please talk to your doctor, your headache just might be that, a bad headache from another cause, but discuss this drug as it is so addiitcve, changing doses can be a downer too.Check various websites on drugs and read all you can about it.
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